The larger theories are on Ginnymented but here are the smaller ones:

(.) VAUDREE’S LAST DITCH THEORIES

1. Regulus Black is not the Bloody Baron
2. RAB is not the Bloody Baron
3. RAB is Regulus Arcturus Black
4. Mundungus Fletcher got himself arrested on Dumbledore’s orders so that he could 5. watch over Lucius Malfoy.

6. Zachariah Smith is related to Hepzibah Smith (same surname and both associated with Hufflepuff – though all Zack seems to like collecting is new bruises from Ginny probably because he likes her).
7. Only Gryffinders figure that Zachariah Smith’s Quidditch commentary is more biased than Lee Jordan’s.
8. Phineas Nigellus knows some of the reasons why Dumbledore trusts Snape
9. Minerva McGonagall and Myrtle are not related
10. Lupin will not be the new leader of the Order of the Phoenix because he is too much of a people pleaser to be effective in giving orders.

11. Dobby will become a full fledged member of the Order of the Phoenix and participate in the fight against Voldemort and the Death Eaters.
12. Nagini is in love with Voldemort because his animagus form is that of a snake and snakes go by sense of smell. It wasn’t Nagini who bit Arthur in the Ministry but Voldemort himself.
13. The longer one stays in one’s animagus form, the harder it becomes to resist the instincts and urges of the animal whose form one has taken.
14. The conversation between Harry and the Tom that came out of the Diary took place in Parsletongue.
15. Myrtle Will Be Used As a Weapon Against Dumbledore

16. The curse on the DADA position is lifted with Dumbledore’s death
17. Hagrid’s father was part goblin because he was too small to be a full blooded wizard.
18. Hagrid got his love of dangerous animals from his father (since Papa Hagrid likes big women and Fridwulfa likes smaller men).
19. Grawp is Hagrid’s mispronunciation Guelph, which was Fridwulf’s nickname for Papa (Ralph) Hagrid. It means little wolf and is one of the former names of the Britidh Royal family.
20. Grawp’s father was a mountain troll that Fridwulfa took up with because she was lonely without her husband and son.

21. Fridwulfa left her husband and son to protect them. She was afraid that they would become collateral damage if the Aurors tried to capture her in their presence. Fridwulfa also feared that Papa Hagrid might be killed trying to protect her.
22. Grunnings, the company Vernon works for, was founded by a wizard by the name of Alberic Grunnion.
23. Piers Polkiss is Peter Pettigrew’s son.
24. Dumbledore sent the Howler, not because he figured that Petunia would kick Harry out, but because he figured that Petunia would not be brave enough to stand up to Vernon to prevent Harry from leaving.
25. We will learn that the various forms of magic are not good or bad in and of themselves, it is the use to which the magic is put that makes it good or bad.

26. We will learn that Harry gave as good as he got when it came to Dudley.
27. Petunia’s tears usually cover up her laughter. For example, Petunia, like Harry, thought that Dudley looked silly in his school uniform and wanted him to go to another school.
28. Petunia fusses with Harry’s hair because she hasn’t given up on the idea that if she could get Harry and his hair to behave that Vernon would like him better.
29. Ludo Bagman was at the graveyard in front of the Riddle mansion.
30. Snape knew that Moody was Barty, the night Harry worked on the egg clue because he saw Barty’s name on the map.

31. Voldemort has not finished using the information he gained from Bertha Jorkin.
32. Goblins and House Elves were originally of the same people.
33. Fred is jealous of Percy, his other older brothers, and does his best to keep Ron down because he is afraid that Ron will outshine him.
34. Ron is racist against everything but muggles.
35. Firenze was Florence’s son.

36. Firenze will teach History or Astronomy after the Ministry does away with Divination.
37. Trelawney is fired and takes up her former residence at the Hogs Head.
38. Golgomath is a mispronunciation of Gulgoleth, which refers to the skull rolling around after its been cut off.
39. Lily was a Prefect during Snape’s Worst Memory.
40. Gryfindor Beat Slytherin for the Quidditch Cup During Snape’s Fifth Year.

41. Peter’s Silver hand, which is made partially of Unicorn blood, is Voldemort’s final Horcrux.

THEORIES I MAY NOT GET UP IN TIME

1. Neville Will Be a House Husband with a small Magical Plant business while the children are young and will then follow the children into Hogwarts as the Herbology Professor
2. Snape played Keeper for Slytherin.
3 . Ginny used a Love Potion on Harry in HBP.
4. Harry will end up with Luna.
5. Ginny will End Up with Neville.
6. It will be revealed that Hermione tried to promote Ginny and sabotage Harry’s relationships with other witches because Hermione did not want Harry to date a girl that might later make a move on Ron.
7. George will be the First Weasley to Die

Thank you, Jason and all for such great theories. As I read the book today, it was really fun mentally "checking off" ideas that had been discussed here.


Gnargles&Snorkaks - I grew up in Moscow Idaho actually... not Washington at all... - small world, my husband grew up in Lewiston.
...currently though, I reside in Michigan - even smaller world, I just spent this past week in Michigan and bought my book at the Lansing midnight release party!

I hope everyone has/had a great time reading.

Think that we better hold onto our theories. I get the feeling that the epilogue was originally going to be longer but there has to be some good tidbits for that book for charity.

Delayed in getting the book but did take a couple of peaks on line.

Imagine your favourite swear word. Seems as if Canada Post couldn't get them all delivered on Saturday but heard through the grape vine that they will get the rest out Sunday.

*hs already finished the book and knows what theories were true*

Yeah. (Y)

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Jason, I have to say, your decruxing Harry theory was pretty close...

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Well, I didn't do half bad. Though, some of those I had hoped would live....*sighs* Almost 18 hours of straight reading...but what a ride. :-)

It sure was a rollercoaster ride from beginning to end, that's certain! And though she didn't reveal to us everything, I think she wrote "her" book with amazing depth and vividness. I know she put her heart and soul into this book - whether everyone likes it or not - she gave us quite an enjoyable ride over these years.

No matter what, I thank JKR from the bottom of my heart for writing such an amazing character and six book series that has been such a huge part of life, brought me joy, wisdom (I still find myself giving people advice with quotes from Dumbledore from the first 5 books!), fanfic enjoyment, and many hours of fun reading and researching for theories in this thread and others.

Thank you, JKR! DH may not be my favorite book of the series but you have told your story and given us so much pleasure and fun! Thank you!

I can't even think of the proper words to express how much I love this book. It was so much better than I could have ever hoped for!

love

that is all that I feel for Harry Potter and the Many Adventures and Laughs and Stories that He has Been Through. Ha ha ha ha that's the name for the entire series.

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red&gold - Jason, I have to say, your decruxing Harry theory was pretty close...

*snort!*

Thanks. I don't think I deserve it, but thanks.

Ironically, my best prediction was this bit here relating to one of the Hallows. Too bad I didn't think it was very important.



I have numerous complaints about "facts" we were given that screwed with a number of my theories. *sigh* But I'll come to those later. Maybe.


Cheers,
Jason

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I was upset about that too JasonD... First she told us once the secret keeper died, the secret died with them... Then in DH she tells us everyone in on the secret is a secret keeper too??? What is up with that?

That could have been what she meant by Dumbledore giving her some trouble... It would make sense... If Harry and Co. had #12 as a hide out for any longer...

I can't see the link yet as the spoiler protection is still up and running, but I will check it out. I never thought Ginny was going to be involved in decruxing Harry... To be frank I never considered it possible to decrux him without killing him (point for Shammy!) but I never considered he'd have the option to come back (another fact that was not elaborated on!)I guess we know what Dumbledore meant by "in essence divided" now!!! :)

red&gold - I can't see the link yet as the spoiler protection is still up and running...

Oops. Well, you'll see it later.

It's only a short post. Basically, I thought the disappearance of Gaunt's Ring from Dumbledore's office was an indidcation that it's tale was unfinished, and that the ring's additional powers would play a role in books seven.


- J

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JasonD and red&gold, in all fairness she did tell us that those who knew the secret would continue to know it. :-) Here is that section from the answer:

When a Secret-Keeper dies, their secret dies with them, or, to put it another way, the status of their secret will remain as it was at the moment of their death. Everybody in whom they confided will continue to know the hidden information, but nobody else.

So the fact that anyone in the Order who went to Grimmauld was secret keeper is exactly what she said would happen. :-)

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weasley1978: in all fairness she did tell us that those who knew the secret would continue to know it. :-) ... Everybody in whom they confided will continue to know the hidden information

Well yes, they did continue to know it, but she then went on to say that 'nobody else' would.


I took this to mean:

Say X is the secret keeper. If at the moment of X's death X is the only person who can reveal the secret, the status of the secret will remain so after X's death; X was the only person who could reveal the secret and post-death X is still the only person who could ever reveal the secret.

But maybe I'm being nit-picky ;)

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Well yes, they did continue to know it, but she then went on to say that 'nobody else' would

However, if you become a secret keeper, then you should be able to reveal the secret even if the original secret keeper is dead. She's basically saying that if the secret keeper dies after revealing a secret, then the new secret keepers can still reveal the secret. Why else would they bother to protect it against Snape if he couldn't reveal it to anyone else? I think that's the most I've ever typed 'secret' in my life,haha!

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So the fact that anyone in the Order who went to Grimmauld was secret keeper is exactly what she said would happen. :-) Oh, that’s not how I read that statement at all. To me it says nobody new can EVER learn it.

Overall I was incredibly move, impressed, surprised and pleased with the book. I’m of course a little sad some of the great theories didn’t come true, but I think I would have been more upset if theory after theory did. I loved the whole ‘winning the wand’ bit…


And did I count right or did Morty actually end up with 7 horcruxes instead of 6? It was all those DD said PLUS HARRY…. That threw me… I didn’t think it was possible… I was SURE Nagini wasn’t….

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The information regarding Secret Keeper, while different from what we see in the FAQ of her website vs. what was revealed in DH, could also be explained away by considering that the Fidelius Charm, perhaps, wasn't fully understood by the Order.

This is what Jo said:
When a Secret-Keeper dies, their secret dies with them, or, to put it another way, the status of their secret will remain as it was at the moment of their death. Everybody in whom they confided will continue to know the hidden information, but nobody else.

This is not how the charm was described to us in DH, but, in practice, this is how it worked. There were Death Eaters hanging around outside, but no one had, to that point, divulged the secret to them so they couldn't enter. The only Death Eater to enter 12 Grimmauld Place was Snape - except for the one that apparated with the trio from the Ministry... And that's an entirely different scenario. I wonder if the kids could have just run into the house quick and the DE would have been unable to follow them.

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And did I count right or did Morty actually end up with 7 horcruxes instead of 6? It was all those DD said PLUS HARRY…. That threw me… I didn’t think it was possible… I was SURE Nagini wasn’t….

You got it - 7 horcruxes. Voldemort ended up with an 8-part soul.

I started thinking about it last night as it was unfolding, and, really, anyone in the "Harry is a horcrux" camp (myself included), should have almost ASSUMED that there were 7 horcruxes. The earliest Voldemort could have possibly discovered that Harry was a horcrux would have been the end of OotP. He surely would have completed his planned 6 horcruxes within the first few months of his rebirth.

I also thought that, perhaps, Harry would even divulge that information, putting fear into Voldemort's mind that he had not ended up with his planned 7-part soul, but actually an 8-part soul... certainly NOT the most powerfully magical number.

7 horcruxes crossed my mind, but for some reason I discarded it as a theory... Well, maybe not discarded it, but never really posted in favor of it on HPANA... Oh well, should have been bolder with that, I guess.

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I think that's the most I've ever typed 'secret' in my life,haha!
I know, I'm getting confused now *grins*

And did I count right or did Morty actually end up with 7 horcruxes instead of 6? It was all those DD said PLUS HARRY…. That threw me… I didn’t think it was possible… I was SURE Nagini wasn’t….
Harry certainly seemed to think she was one, so yeah I guess there were 7 after all! But rereading the part when Neville cuts off her head there doesn't seem to have been any reactions of the sort that the other Horcruxes that we saw being destroyed had.

Then again, Harry might just not have noticed anything over the din of the battle, and we don't know that all the Horcruxes did spurt ink/scream/whatever when destroyed.

If she was one, I take back all my debates with Hairy Pooter - you were right all along :)


And wasn't Neville great in that Chapter!

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Gnargles&Snorkaks - And did I count right or did Morty actually end up with 7 horcruxes instead of 6?

That threw me, too. I kept yelling at Harry, "forget the snake!" But Dumbledore called Harry the seventh Horcrux, not the sixth (presumably this is a matter of counting, not necessarily order of making, because he was made before Nagini).


Peppermint Toad - 7 horcruxes crossed my mind, but for some reason I discarded it as a theory...

Perhaps for the same reason I did: Rowling said in an interview there were only four more out there.


stumbleine_ - Harry certainly seemed to think she was one, so yeah I guess there were 7 after all!

Yup.

But #1: It was still clear, from the text, that Voldemort's ability to continue producting Horcruxes was limited, and the eighth part of his soul was all the more terribly diminished.


But #2: I still think it's stupid that he kept endangering Nagini.


Cheers,
Jason

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Horcruxes are as follows
Harry
Nagini
Diadem
cup
locket
ring
diary

I know dumblegirl will appreciate that 7 horcrux idea... We've been saying that for a few months!!! :) I realize it was unintentional, but still...

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But #2: I still think it's stupid that he kept endangering Nagini.
Stupid that you would separate a piece of your soul only to keep it on you, displayed around your shoulders.

AK got rid of Harry's 'Crux. Would it have worked the same on Nagini? That is, if someone had aimed an AK at Nagini, would the NaginiCrux have been destroyed? I suppose it would; AK works on spiders (alive but non-human) and AK got rid of HarryCrux. I was wondering whether Nagini would be safe even if she seemed to have been endangered because only certain things destroy Horcruxes, but it seems that, yep, it really was stupid to have her out in the open and not hidden somewhere. Guess Voldemort was lonely. ;)

Don't mind the ramble; just thinking out loud...

Its over ..init??.. nothing more... no more harry potter..apart from the movies..which may be a complete mess or could actually be good like the 3rd one!.....

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But rereading the part when Neville cuts off her head there doesn't seem to have been any reactions of the sort that the other Horcruxes that we saw being destroyed had. The Morty being protective of her convinced me she was one far more than Harry being after her... Unless Morty THOUGHT he created her but couldn't because of already having made the last... but that would be to convoluded to go back and seemingly change things when the simple explanation was he made an extra because he didn't know Harry was one...

And wasn't Neville great in that Chapter! FABULOUS!

AK got rid of Harry's 'Crux. Would it have worked the same on Nagini? That is, if someone had aimed an AK at Nagini, would the NaginiCrux have been destroyed? Or would Nagini gone on some mind trip where she had a decision to make *snort* Guess the crux would be gone regardless... but I loved Neville chopping off her head (there were all those beheading clues after all)



I felt the epilogue didn't have enough to satisfy me. I wanted to really know what everyone was doing, not just the marriages and that Neville was a teacher.

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Rowling said in an interview there were only four more (Horcruxes)out there.

I think that was actually rather clever of her. She spoke the truth in a way - she implied that DD had commissioned Harry to find the four Horcruxes that were 'out there' Harry(crux) was not 'out there', he was ALREADY there, so he didn't need finding, he just needed the correct information. I think she was having a Gollum moment - she went all tricksy with us and gave us a truth that was totally misleading. She explained that DH would be about Harry finding these four Horcruxes, which it was. Therefore *coughsergocoughs* she wasn't lying, merely being economical with the truth. Like I say, clever.


Or maybe not....each to their own opinion.*shrugs*

And regarding the '7' Horcruxes, maybe I'm oversimplifying, but to me, there still were only seven. Voldy's teeny bit of soul left inside him isn't technically a Horcrux, is it? Another way for JK to give us the truth, but mislead us at the same time. Okay, that's being way simplistic, but I've never pretended to be Brain of Britain.

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Despite the fact that everyone figured that they were all secret keepers now - did anyone actually say the words "Grimmauld Place" or was anyone who was not already in on the secret able to enter the house through the door? Seems that DD had quite the reputation for lies, but will have to reread before I can be certain that the answer to both questions is "no".

When Harry went into the Room of Requirement, the black cabinet was still there. Where is the other one? Is it at Grimmauld Place or still at Borgin and Burkes? If the former, Snape has a way in and a way out without bothering with the protections. Then, they are not really for Snape but for someone else already let in on the secret.



Better safe than sorry. It is better to kill the snake just in case AND because Nagini could have taken out Dennis along with Colin. OK there is no proof that Dennis was there, but ... until JKR names all who died, I can't give an example of someone who likely lived.



Evil greedy people usually are. smirk

There will probably be a bit of information contained in the encyclopedia that didn't fit into the plot.

It is normal if someone has cancer to want to see a small purpose or advantage in it - even if it doesn't get anywhere near making up for the many disadvantages.

The same goes when one gets sick a lot due to the fact that people use so-called air freshioners and poisons mascarading as disinfectants.

I thought I found that little purpose or advantage that made it all bearable. It is gone. Need suggestions to replace it. What advantages are there to a loss of alertness, drowsiness, periodic inability to follow a TV show and the dumbing down of what you read, and, lately, the back of the head getting weak and not holding the head up? There has to be something.

If you are going to gloat (and I know you are silently at present), the least you can do if you are a good winner is to find some way of replacing that small advantage or purpose.