So I loved the movie right up until after the cave scene! They made it look like Snape was actually good instead of making the viewers decide!

And...WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BATTLE SCENE? They completely cut it all out!

Yes I know the Battle of Hogwarts didn't happen and no Order members turned up after Dumbledore's death. I think we got a bit of an extra battle scene at the Burrow to compensate for this.
I think they just tried to focus on DD's death and I'm usually quite disappointed with what they leave out of the films but I wasn't disappointed at all with this one, not even over the Riddle memories they left out although I made sure I hadn't read the book for ages beforehand so that I wouldn't be comparing.

And I think the portrayal of Snape was great with non-readers unsure as to who's side he was on and I think they probably thought Snape was a bad charcater at the end as I did when reading it. I liked it when Snape says to DD you ask too much (or something along those lines), something we all know what but I don't think for someone who has just seen the film they would leave knowing Snape was good.
Probably the best film yet although that might be because I've only just seen it but (unusually) I was't disappointed with what was left out.

I have to agree with St. Lupin. DD's death was such an obvious ending point, that it may have been overkill to have then another battle scene. It worked in the book, but I don't think if they would have tried to fit it in, it would have been as good.

Saving the entire battle for the last movie, I guess!

I was disappointing to see a group of Death eaters simply walk out of Hogwarts, all while taking a detour through the great hall might i add, without any opposition besides one auror with his back turned.

Haha I totally agree with you #1 Auror, I was just wondering how that they'd walk out of the place. Also, Snape must be a Olympic walking champion or something, because he walks faster than Harry runs :P

The downplay of the Order was pretty disappointing though. It makes Voldemort seem like he's unopposed and that there's no real outside world of good from Hogwarts. Some interaction between the Order and the Death Eaters at the end would've been nice, but still a sweet movie :)

I was actually really disappointed by how much of the ending of the book they skipped in the movie. I was actually looking forward to Fenrir and Bill fighting.

I agree with fenixx there was absolutely no resistance from the Order. Actually the only part they play is Tonks and Remus, and Remus tells Harry he's exaggerating - it definitely does not put the opposition to Voldemort in good light. I wouldn't have minded the missing battle scenes so much if there had been some resistance, but they just strolled out of the castle without anyone even knowing they were there. I was quite dissapointed with that ending.

To me, its like GOF again, where they added the long Harry getting chased by the dragon thing instead of other important scenes.
The Burrow scene was good, i'm not saying that, but i feel some was unnessary and they could of cut the marsh running and put some sort of battle at the end.
Even if we just saw Harry running past people dueling or something.
Ahh its to late now anyway but it dissapointed me .

i just think that having the death eaters just walking out of the castle is unrealistic. I mean everyone has been warned about these people for years and they just let them walk out. Slytherins i'd understand not doing anything and students being too scared to do anything. but teachers and other students you would think would do something.

I think the burrow scene was good but the final battle should have taken place. Bill and Fluer weren't even mentioned in the movie at all. Wats going to happen for the wedding?....make it lupin and tonks insted....not have one at all?

I think that if they would have left the battle scene at the end we would have gotten something similar to Sirius' death at the end of Order of the Phoenix. Sirius' death was fast and forgettable because of all of the action that happened afterward. Dumbledore was such an important and key character that they had to focus on him and only him in order to get the proper effect.

I dunno what David Yates was thinking cutting out the battle scene. I mean hello! Bill gets attacked by Fenrir which is how all of the Order ends up in the hospital wing where they discuss Snape. They didn't put near enough emphasis on the reality of what happened there! It was totally lame. And a huge let down. I think it ruined the entire movie.

They did say months ago that the battle at Hogwarts was going to be cut to avoid repetition in DH.

And I thought it was relaistic.. The greatest and most powerful wizard in the entire school had just been murdered by another teacher - no one was going to fight them or stop them getting out of the school without the Order. Its only the beginning of the war..

I expected that, so it was easier for me to like the movie without the battle scene.

The Battle Scene should have been there. It was very important in the book! I didn't like the battle scene at the burrow... and what about the burrow been burnt down! The place is actually very important in book 7, that's where Fleur and Bill get married!

I'm sorry but there was no need to have the Battle Scene at the end of the HBP. (It was necessary for the book, but not the film). At the end of DH the battle is going to EPIC, it would seem odd to have the same thing twice. In the books the ending of HBP is a skirmish to the final battle, which isn't necessarily needed in the films. It would take away from DD's death, and it's not like Harry didn't try to fight Snape. That is the important part.

As for the Burrow scene there are simple explanations for that, they needed a representation of how twisted the Death Eaters are. Plus it helps with pacing issues.

I'm sick and tired of this fandom being too petty when things are left out. People need to see the big picture.

I dont really agree with you ,Aurora_7, I think that the producers messed up with the ending because the could have made the battle scene and still show the importance of Dumbldore's death. And it looked like the DeathEaters were invisible and the were just walking around and no one but Harry didn't even try to stop them. They've made Aurors look like little babies in front of the Deatheaters...What The F?????
In the beginning of the movie, hogwarts looks like the most protected place in the world...in the end...it's like the Deatheaters were the only-ones in the Castle....

I really think they f...up the ending...

I'm sorry but with Snape being the first person you see out of the 'pack' of Death Eaters any Auror is going to hestitate. Thus, giving the Death Eaters the advantage and the Aurors unable to do anything but be stunned by them.

With no one patrolling other than the Aurors how would you expect there to be a movie Battle scene? I will say this, I would've liked to see Hagrid.

The ending in my mind shows the Death Eaters and Voldemort as very powerful indeed. At the end of HBP you are meant to think, how is Harry going to beat Voldemort?! That is how we all felt after reading it, just because we know the ending it doesn't change anything.

They may just save the battle between Fenrir and Bill for the beginning of DH, considering that he's actually been casted for that movie.

And, as for the audience being sure Snape was good, that's completely un-true. Over the past week or so, my group of friends has sat down all of our friends who haven't seen the movies/read the books and had them watch all of them, so we could all go see it together. When we walked out of the theatre, one of those kids said "I can't believe Snape is bad!" and she was about to like, cry.

Although it was upsetting that the final battle was missing, there were several reasons why they may have skipped out on it. Personally, I felt the fact that the Death Eaters just waltzed right out of the castle gave the whole movie a sort of hopeless feeling, that there wasn't too much that could actually be done to prevent the further rise of Voldemort.
It was that feeling that lent itself to the scene with Dumbledore, when everyone raised their wands. It made that image seem a lot more powerful to me.

But eh, that's just my opinion.

Well I saw the movie the day after it had come out and I had heard phenomenal things about. After the movie I was extremely disappointed. They left out so many important things and added things that were unnecessary. Such as..

1. The attack on the Burrow. I did notice that this subject was already brought up previously in the thread but i would just like to go over it again. What was the point of it and why would they burn down the Burrow?

2. They left out the entire chapter of the conversation between the muggle Prime Minister and the Minister of Magic.

3. Luna finding Harry on the train after Malfoy kicked him in the face. I know this isn't very substancial but it showed how Tonks' patronus had changed, causing Harry to think that she had loved Sirius. And what was up with the smoke bomb or whatever it was?

4. Tonks and Lupin. There secret relationship was supposed to be revealed at the end of the book after the battle.

5. The battle. I don't even know where to start with this. I personally believe that it should've been included but i can see why they didn't include it. This includes the absolutely ridiculous escape made by Snape and the Death Eaters.

6. Bill and Fleur's absence in the movie. It should've showed them getting married cause then they don't have to set it up later when Harry and the gang have to show up there after they escape the Malfoy's Manor in The Deathly Hallows.

7. The memories. Now i understand that the movie worked well without them but it didn't show Voldemort's obsession with the Founders objects, which is crucial in finding all the Horcrux's. And with how they set it up in the movie Harry is going to be on a wild goose chase cause he has no idea what he sould be looking for.

8. Ginny hiding the Potions book. This isn't that important but when Harry hide it himself in the book that is when he got a glance of Ravenclaw's Diadem in the Room of Requirement. If he hadn't done this he would have never had any idea where to go in the seventh book after he spoke to the Gray Lady.

Well i think that is all i have to say. I'm sure i have more but i can not think of it at the moment. I would love to hear your feedback.

Addressing your points:

1. Simple explanation for that, which is in one of my earlier posts. But to clarify the Death Eaters enjoy creating fear, which was the entire point of that scene. Plus, the film needed more than just the bridge collapsing to show that they are a threat. Also, it helps with the pacing of the film.

2. Not essential to the film. The opening sequence covers the fact that the Muggle world is in danger.

3. Again not really essential to the film. The film audience has no real connection with the character Tonks. The 'bomb' I can't remember the exact name but it's just dissillusionment powder so that Harry could get in and listen to Malfoy.

4. Again, not important.

5. There are good explanations why the battle was left out, I guess up to you whether you agree or not.

6. It is possible to introduce Bill and Fluer again in DH and make it work. I don;t see their absence from HBP as problematic.

7. I agree that there should've been a little more explanation of the Horcruxes. However, I believe it is possible for the trio to make the connection to the other horcruxes easily enough for DH. He has RAB and that's a good start.

8. Ginny hiding the book only means that Harry is going to have to involve Ginny once he gets back to Hogwarts, because it seems she'll be the only one who will know where the diadem is in the RoR. Nothing to worry about.

One of my friends said to me the other day, 'I'm so annoyed Harry's eyes aren't green!' I responded, 'Are you serious?!' Minor details some find important are not necessarily so. Yes they add a little more to the story but are not needed in the film.



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Okay you've again made good points. But i feel that since they left so much out that was necessary for the events in DH that they will have to pack more into it therefore they will have to take out more from Dh to make up for the lack of detail in HBP

I think it will take up less time than you imagine. We have potentionally 5 hours of film left, it is possible to cover some points missed in HBP and have the key parts of DH.

Aurora 7's right, DH is not around the same length as HBP and they're splitting it in two. There's more than enough time to fit in everything they missed.

I don't think every chapter's relevant to the plot either. The movie's are just movies, not visual representations of the books. I still had my little problems with the movies but not with what was or wasn't included. With the amount of plot they had to squeeze into the time they had, I think they did pretty damn well

The battle scene was ridiculous.
It was too short, and it left the audience wondering where everyone was when the events were occuring.
I didn't mind the Death Eaters cornering Dumbledore, I just wish that they had to fight off the order, and we saw a bit of a battle going on between the Order and the Death Eaters, as well as Ron, Hermione, Ginny, Neville, and Luna.
I was also upset with Snape vs. Harry. Harry did absolutely nothing but two shots at Snape, and then it was over. It was depressing to watch

The battle scene ....

Up till the moment Harry and Dumbledore entered the cave I was completely disappointed, In the cave, yeeey they decide to follow the book for a change and I think I will now be rewarded for sitting through a romantic comedy rather than the magic packed movie I was waiting for .. they get out of the cave ... and poof... no battle.. no heroes and no breathtaking action !!

I declare myself so very disappointed ..

It was a complete disappointment. I honestly think it was done for commercial reasons. WB made it seem like we'd see it all in the next film but how can you just add battle scenes in a future film when it already happened? I can somewhat understand Dumbledore's funeral being delayed but really?

So I know I'm behind the ball on this one.... having only seen the movie last night... but the whole movie is set up for something major and I really feel like the battle was important and necessary. So frustrated.