Discussion: The 'Phoenix' files

Witch

House: Gryffindor
Points: 661

Flitterbloom says:

Godric Gryffindor
Godric Gryffindor was a pureblood wizard born in June, more or less a thousand years ago. He and his family lived in Africa for some time, away from the witch-hating English Muggles of the time. It was on the remote plain that Godric discovered the wonder of African wildlife. He especially enjoyed watching the lion prides on the prowl. Godric was adventurous, and sometimes mischievious, so it was not uncommon for him to sneak into the wilderness. Yet he was so noble that his parents could hardly get mad at him. Godric was taught wizardry by his would-be-profesor father, who often went on about how there should be a proper wizards' school for the children. Godric was fond of his father, who tried to be strict, but often ended up skipping lessons or cracking jokes with adventurous Godric. When Godric turned eighteen, he returned to England on his own. He went to live in Hogsmeade, which he'd heard was near an enchanted forest. It interested Godric to see if this was mere Muggle lore or if he might find other wizards nearby. He met young raven-haired Salazar Slytherin in a tavern, and they became friends. This was because Godric first found Salazar to have the same adventurous spirit as he did, though later he discovered it to be a willingness to do anything for himself. Nevertheless, Godric shared his dream of creating a great wizard's school with Salazar, who readily agreed this was a grand idea. By this time, they were both at least thirty and had shared a lasting friendship as they became famous wizards with great powers. Salazar got in touch with Helga Hufflepuff, another great wizard, and she came to help create Hogwarts. Later, Godric met young Rowena Ravenclaw, who shared the wisdom beyond her years with the other Hogwarts teachers. Godric began to grow away from Salazar as he began to make more demands from the school. Salazar became angrier and angrier with Hogwarts, Godric, and Muggle-born wizards until he finally left the school. He was no longer Godric's friend, he had become an enemy. But proud Godric kept his head high through it, and continued to be noble, brave, and daring. Today, he is perhaps the most respected of the Hogwarts four. Gryffindors have always been brave and noble, and the lion (perhaps from the lions Godric saw on the plains) remains house symbol.Godric Gryffindor's wand is now in Gringott's, locked safely away and wonderfully preserved.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:29 PM EST

Hufflepuff Princess

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 24832

Waddi Wasi says:

Mad-Eye, you're welcome. Who else do you guys think is an animagus or metamorphmagus?

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:29 PM EST

Hufflepuff Princess

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 24832

Waddi Wasi says:

Wow... that's pretty good! I wonder if it's true or thought-up? Is there a way to contact the owner of the website?

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:30 PM EST

Witch

House: Gryffindor
Points: 661

Flitterbloom says:

Salazar Slytherin
Salazar Slytherin was born Feburary 5th over a thousand years ago. He was a kind boy, dependent of his mother in his early years. But times became harsh for wizards and his mother was sought out by Muggles who wished her harm. Sezera Slytherin thought it best to leave her young son with a Muggle family. From there, Sezera was killed by the Muggles that Salazar soon learned to hate. He fled the town in search of education as a wizard. He found it in Hogsmeade, where he was able to work in bakery for education from Kuhrin Lesbith. She taught him everything she knew and tryed to be helpful, but Salazar thought she was bossy acting like teacher,only three years older than him. Yet they slowly became friends and Salazar accepted the fact that Kuhrin was only helping him. Salazar began to discover new spells and potions over the next few years, and gained fame from it. Salazar became a cunning wizard who stayed rooted to his opinions. He still believed Muggles deserved to be hated, and was often harsh to them. Salazar Slytherin and Godric Gryffindor met by chance at a popular resturant and they became friends. They wanted to create a wizard's school, Hogwarts, and invited Helga Hufflepuff and Rowena Ravenclaw to help. Salazar had always known he was Parselmouth, and made the snake his house symbol almost immediately. Salazar married Kuhrin during the making of Hogwarts, and they had a son named Surzian. When Surzian was approximately two years old, his father had just about destroyed the castle in his rage. He argued constantly that Muggle-born students were untrustworthy until he felt the world had turned on him. He ignored his wife, son, and friends and froze his heart with the anger and greed that was finally unleashed in the Chamber of Secrets. Then Salazar dissapeared into the night, never to be seen or heard from again. It is said that Kuhrin was last to see him, walking briskly toward the Forbidden Forest, numb to his wife's distant pleas and his son's distant cries as he walked deeper into the trees.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:31 PM EST

Witch

House: Gryffindor
Points: 661

Flitterbloom says:

Rowena Ravenclaw
When Loberus Ravenclaw died, he left the eagle pendant to Rowena, who wore it always from then on. Rowena strived to be wise and clever like her grandfather, and became one of the greatest witches of the age. At age twenty six, Rowena lived in a remote village near present-day Liverpool where she met Phiona. Phiona was a Muggle-born witch persecuted by the villagers, suspicious of the strange things Phiona seemed to make happen. Rowena felt sorry for the nine-year old witch, and befriended her.When Phiona's house was burned by the villagers, Rowena apparated with her to the outskirts of the Forbidden Forest, hidden from Muggle eye. It was in nearby Hogsmeade that Rowena met Godric Gryffindor, it was there that she was invited to help with the making of a wizards'school, Hogwarts. And it was so. Rowena Ravenclaw joined Godric Gryffindor, Helga Hufflepuff, and Salazar Slytherin in the making of Hogwarts. Phiona became one of the first Hogwarts students and took the name Ravenclaw on for her own. Phiona inherited the eagle pendant when Rowena passed on, and it is owned today by Loberus Ravenclaw XI. Loberus XI gave the pendant to the Ravenclaw house, where it is embedded (protected by glass) in a portrait of Rowena Ravenclaw above the mantel. Wisdom continues to be Ravenclaw trait and eagle is the mascot, no doubt inspired by the famous turquoise and ivory pendant.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:32 PM EST

Metamorphmagus

House: Gryffindor
Points: 37946

tonks black says:

Cathaholic - maybe tonks can make herself look like harry and she will have to sacrifice herself so harry can kill voldemort.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:35 PM EST

Marauder says:

x WaddiWasi x- you can contact the owner of the website

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:35 PM EST

Witch

House: Gryffindor
Points: 661

Flitterbloom says:

tonks black - I can definitly see that happening. That'll be so sad.. I bet everyones gonna die by the end of the 7th book

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:37 PM EST

Metamorphmagus

House: Gryffindor
Points: 37946

tonks black says:

Flitterbloom-thats a good theory about lupin being james is disguise. but then why wouldnt he of told harry?

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:38 PM EST

Witch

House: Gryffindor
Points: 661

Flitterbloom says:

I contacte the ownder, and she said she got the information about the house founders from another site, but she doesn't know if it's true.. oh well, it's still an intersting read
tonks black- i like that theory too. I think Lupin might not want to tell Harry because of some problems it might cause. I believe that if the theory is true, of course we're going to find out, and Harry will find out, but for now, I think they wanted to keep that information wrapped up for Lupins (James) safety and maybe Harrys well being too.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:46 PM EST

Wizard

House: Slytherin
Points: 533

dimtick says:

had an strange earlier - this is jumping back to an earlier disgussion about crookshanks being an animangus. What is Hedgewick (Harry's owl) was an animangus? Harry didn't buy Hedgwick, he was a gift from Hagrid. What if DD had Hagrid give the owl to Harry as gaurdian?
If I remember a conversation between Harry & Ron from CoS, that owls are very expensive and I've never gotten the impression that Hagrid has any, so how could he afford to give Harry such a wonderful bird?
I think this is pretty far fetched but kind of fun to think about.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:52 PM EST

Witch

House: Gryffindor
Points: 661

Flitterbloom says:

Snitch - a note to what you posted earlier about Lily being an anigmus and that having something to do with the importance of her eyes.. Do we know any animals, or humans who have bright green eyes?? because if we do, or if we read a small passage with a reference to eyes like Lily's and Harry's perhaps that could have some importance. I think I may need to read all these books again soooo slowly

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:54 PM EST

Witch

House: Gryffindor
Points: 661

Flitterbloom says:

dimtick - wow.. i'm surprised no one thought of this earlier. It's definitly a possibilty. I've been thinking a lot about what we've read on anigmi. They each have some sort of "marking" on them. I wonder if we could find out if Hedwig and Crookshanks had a sort of different marking on them... I'm going to try and do that. Plus, what were Sirius' and James' markings? And.. do you just need a marking when you register so that they can distinguish you from other animals? Because Wormtail we know had a toe missing when he was a rat.. I wonder if that was his marking. Any answers to these questions??

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:58 PM EST

Wizard

House: Slytherin
Points: 533

dimtick says:

to the theory of Lupin being James - how could Lupin be James if they were both in Snapes memory. And why couldn't Harry have lived with him instead of the Dursleys, unless his mothers sacrifice only applied to her side of the family (blood relation - not marriage), which thus doesn't apply to James side of the family.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:59 PM EST

Metamorphmagus

House: Gryffindor
Points: 37946

tonks black says:

once again, here is another lovely edtion of tonks's thoughts. also sorry if these post are alittle late, but you all post alot in a little amount of time. lol.
Flitterbloom:good theory about the four founders turning into animals.maybe hufflepuff was mrs.norris(the cat of filch i think)?an good facts about reasearching helga hufflepuff.
and i agree about maybe lupin is james and isee what you mean about it for harrys well being. harry would probably stop wanting to kill voldemort as much then.

jade- maybe kakaroff ran back to voldemort cause if i remember right he was a death eater.also, maybe DD will order harry to have lessons with tonks on how to be whatever it is called where you can change your appearance.

dimtick- i never thought about hagrid not being about to afford hedwig. its a good chance he could be an animagi

since voldemort was the heir of slytherin, maybe the souls of each or the four founders lives on in the body of the person who will be most loyal and powerful. or it could be most loyal and most like what is described in the sorting hats song for each house.and sorry if this shows up really long.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 4:01 PM EST

Professor

House: Gryffindor
Points: 1012

Imperio says:

dimtick- I like your idea that Hedwig could be an animagus, for a couple reasons. JKR has always made a point to talk about Hedwig's markings and in OotP it is shown that she stands out among the other owls (Parvati Patil exclaimed how she always liked Hedwig) Hagrid does not have money, let alone one that is as nice as Harry's and Hedwig also seems to boast some rather humanlike characteristics like anger when Harry had neglected her.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 4:01 PM EST

Hufflepuff Princess

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 24832

Waddi Wasi says:

Alright.. well, James was a big stag. And Sirius, we know more of what he looks like. He is a huge black dog, that looks like a Grim. I think maybe Lily was a metamorphmagus.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 4:01 PM EST

Squib

House: Slytherin
Points: 142

Mad-Eye says:

Flitterbloom- Rita Skeeter had markings and she was unregistered. Although i dont think we found out what Sirius and James' markings were.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 4:02 PM EST

Metamorphmagus

House: Gryffindor
Points: 37946

tonks black says:

dimtick- we werent saying lupin was james. we were saying at the time that james got killed, maybe he was lupin just dressed like snape.and that could be how they were both in his memory

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 4:03 PM EST

Hufflepuff Princess

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 24832

Waddi Wasi says:

Yeah, Hedwig always understands when Harry says something, too, like she can understand English. So far, she's the only snowy owl in the book.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 4:03 PM EST

Hufflepuff Princess

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 24832

Waddi Wasi says:

Did James wear glasses? Sirius doesn't, so he certainly wouldn't have markings.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 4:05 PM EST

Metamorphmagus

House: Gryffindor
Points: 37946

tonks black says:

ooo! i got an idea! maybe one of the four founders is really hedwig and they knew harry would need help and a guard!

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 4:06 PM EST

Witch

House: Gryffindor
Points: 661

Flitterbloom says:

dimtick - my theory was that perhaps james was a metamorphmagus and he didn't die that day. Lupin perhaps sacrificed himself, and James changed his appearance to Lupins afterwards.. I've listed some reasons somewhere back there as to why James/Lupin wouldn't say anything to Harry if that theory was true.
Mad-Eye thanks for reminding me of Rita being unregistered.

Haha Jade.. thanks for the compliment. I was actually going to bring up Hermione's Patronus. I don't know if anyone has already discussed this, but I haven't so I was wondering if anyone had some ideas as to why her's might be an otter?! I have some ideas, but I would love to hear other people's first.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 4:10 PM EST

Hufflepuff Princess

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 24832

Waddi Wasi says:

Snitch: brilliant minds think alike! Yeah, everyone else has such great ideas, I'm just not creative. I think Mr, Weasley will be next Minister what do you think?

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 4:10 PM EST

Hufflepuff Princess

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 24832

Waddi Wasi says:

JK says Hermione is loosely based on herself, and also says she would want to be an otter animagus, but that's all I know.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 4:11 PM EST

Squib

House: Slytherin
Points: 142

Mad-Eye says:

tonks black- cool idea.

What do people think Lavender and Parvati will do in future (if anything) because we hear a lot about them but so far i dont think they have proven their Gryffindor qualities

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 4:11 PM EST