Discussion: The 'Phoenix' files

Student

House: Gryffindor
Points: 294

girliegirl says:

Remember when petunia was talking about the day lily got her letter? she said everyone was so proud of her (just her) and that her(petunia) was the only one that knew what lily was.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 5:34 PM EST

Hufflepuff Princess

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 24832

Waddi Wasi says:

Kadyak is right. Dudley and Harry are the same age, therefore if Dudley's name had been put down by the magical scroll, Dudley would have gotten a letter too. Maybe not necesserily the same time as Harry-- but he would have gotten a letter nonetheless.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 5:36 PM EST

Metamorphmagus

House: Gryffindor
Points: 37939

tonks black says:

hey everyone..im tired of getting like 5 emails a minute,so im leaving it where i get emailed if you say my name of course, i will still post and stuff but if you need me just put my name in the post.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 5:37 PM EST

Witch

House: Gryffindor
Points: 661

Flitterbloom says:

Girliegirl - If Petunia had already received a letter or received one afterwards and she thought that Magic made you a freak than she wouldn't want people to be proud of her, she wouldn't want people to think she was a freak either so she would just pretend she never got a letter

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 5:37 PM EST

Auror

House: Gryffindor
Points: 2303

padfoot5312 says:

It does seem that Crookshanks is an animagus. Padfoot and he did not like the rat. They both seem to know that the rat wasn't right. Cat and dog did get along

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 5:38 PM EST

Student

House: Gryffindor
Points: 294

girliegirl says:

if Petunia or Dudley are going to learn magic in the next books ...then Jk is contradicting herself...because only persons with powers can go to hogwarts and learn magic ..none of them got the letter... unless there is a special explanation for that...

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 5:39 PM EST

Hufflepuff Princess

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 24832

Waddi Wasi says:

We don't know that they didn't get a letter. It's not stated in cannon. We do know that all the Dursleys are opposed to magic and do not study at a magic school.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 5:43 PM EST

Student

House: Gryffindor
Points: 294

girliegirl says:

Flitterbloom- wow you're right! we dont know if petunia and lily are the same age...but isnt lily younger?...perhaps petunia got a letter later ...or bfore lily...and she just didnt want to learn magic

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 5:43 PM EST

Witch

House: Gryffindor
Points: 661

Flitterbloom says:

HEY EVERYONE

E-mail this address webmaster@hpana.com and politely ( hehe)ask if we can get a chatroom here at HPANA. Maybe the more people that ask, the more chance we'll have of getting one!!!!!

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 5:44 PM EST

Student

House: Gryffindor
Points: 294

girliegirl says:

but what abouy Dudley then?...he did not get a letter...maybe because Dumbledore knew that Petunia wouldnt let him go ...

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 5:45 PM EST

Marauder

House: Gryffindor
Points: 3954

jade says:

Fudge is ver insecure he wasnot their1st choice for mister, their 1st choice was DD but he would never leave Hogwarts, 2nd was Barty Crouch but after his son was found with DE and he was sent to Azkaban, so he was 3rd. If he was forced out i think they would have to be very careful Fudge likes power and i think he will do anything to keep it, i am not saying he is going to the dark side but like like Hagrid said in PS some people just wanted some of his power and remember he seemed very close to Lucius Malfoy

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 5:48 PM EST

Hufflepuff Princess

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 24832

Waddi Wasi says:

Actually, last night, we had a chatroom on AIM.. a few people came, like Cheeser, Beatrice M N, Tadhgain, and more. It was pretty fun.. I asked Cheeser if he would post it on the site, he said he's not sure.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 5:50 PM EST

Witch

House: Gryffindor
Points: 661

Flitterbloom says:

x waddiwasi x a lot of people (myself included) don't use AOL and therefor don't have AIM, thats why I think it'd be nice to set up a chat room here. I think Cheeser may not want to because he's afraid the subject might steer away from Harry Potter, but we all know that it won't!! Harry's too big of a subject to change!

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 5:54 PM EST

Professor

House: Gryffindor
Points: 1106

Ima Quidditch Fan says:

Kadyak - I agree Fudge is acting of his own free will, and it has been very self-serving.

You mentioned that you thought Snape may be DD's downfall = he mistake. What are your thoughts about the Grey Lady. I see a similarity between the Lady of the Lake and Merlin. Is she the unknown Ravenclaw ghost?

By the way, are you from Alaska? My husband is from Ketchikan... small world.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 5:57 PM EST

Hufflepuff Princess

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 24832

Waddi Wasi says:

I don't have AOL either..Harry Potter is [b[the[/b] best subject. I have MSN and Yahoo too since my whole family likes to communicate (my familys very big) and not everyone has the same thing.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 5:57 PM EST

Hufflepuff Princess

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 24832

Waddi Wasi says:

DD sure makes a lot of mistakes, but he tries for the best. I feel so sorry for him sometimes, because a lot of things are blamed onto him.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 5:58 PM EST

Squib

House: Gryffindor
Points: 164

Kadyak says:

George CantStandya - I just found your reply:

I see what you mean by the muggles and wizards actually being one race, and the fact that the wizards don't just go their own way. I'll have to think about that. The fact that muggles have consistently shown themselves to be intolerant of magic still seems to make a big difference to me in this equation, however. Think about this: If Arthur Weasely or Hermione Granger were convinced that muggles wouldn't react negatively to learning of the existence of the wizarding world, and the matter of rescinding the decree were to come up, what position would each one take?

There is another part of this. If the wizarding world is revealed, with whom will the Muggles side? This question has already been raised here. My question is, who says they'll take either side? I can easily see two distinct responses, based on the realities of the WWII era. 1) The muggles will refuse to become involved - out of fear if nothing else. 2) They will take the attitude of the Dursley's and lump all wizards together as the enemy, based in part no doubt, upon the exact issues you have raised. At the same time, looking at WWII, I'd say that it is most likely that different Muggles, individually and collectively, will take different stances. Some will ally themselves with DD, and others with VD (bad, I know), others still will remain neutral and a last group will hate all wizards.

Each reader might ask him or herself, "How would I respond if I were to learn that there is a wizarding world in my backyard and it is about to explode into my front yard - so to speak? Thinking through this question, I think will demonstrate this crucial nature of this question, even if George and I differ in our answers.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 5:59 PM EST

Auror

House: Gryffindor
Points: 2303

padfoot5312 says:

I agree also with HGreenbacker8705 that if he could remove the scar he would. He didn't like everyone looking at him in book 1

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 6:00 PM EST

Witch

House: Gryffindor
Points: 661

Flitterbloom says:

Kadyak - you point out somethings I was trying to discuss earlier. I have a few very different opinions about the whole unity of wizards and muggles and you directed one of them head on so I'm goint to continue it. When you mentioned that Mr. Weasley and Hermione convinced themsleves that muggles wouldn't react negatively, I personally think that they wouldn't think that. Because of the reason that was brought up earlier and you yourself stated again. They (wizards) would not want to risk telling muggles about their magical world and upon finding out that muggles do react negatively about it, have to fight two different wars. The one against Voldemort and the dark side, and one against muggles. There are definitly possibilities that not all muggles would react negatively, but if some did and some didn't, not only could that start a "war" between muggles and wizards, but it could start a war between muggles who like magic and muggles who don't. JKR wouldn't want the whole world wo be fighting against eachother now would she? This is just a speculation of what I feel Arthur and Hermione would think of.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 6:09 PM EST

Squib

House: Gryffindor
Points: 164

Kadyak says:

Jade - chatting on MSN messenger might be good. GirlieGirl, Virginia and I were talking about that last night when I realized that our posts were really becoming a chat session.

Ima Quidditch Fan - To tell you the truth I have given absolutely no thought to the Grey Lady, to the point other than knowing she's a ghost, I don't remember a single thing about her. If you are suggesting a parallel of Grey Lady:Dumbledore as Lady of Lake:Merlin, that is, of course, plausible in general terms.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 6:10 PM EST

Hufflepuff Princess

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 24832

Waddi Wasi says:

It's strange how we haven't met Hermione's parents yet, we just got like little glances of them.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 6:10 PM EST

Auror

House: Gryffindor
Points: 2303

padfoot5312 says:

I agree with dimtick. Petunia is not a squib. Both their parents were mudbloods. She just nosey and listens to things.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 6:22 PM EST

Squib

House: Gryffindor
Points: 164

Kadyak says:

Jade or Mad Eye: I really wish I could read the UK version of the books. I think it is STUPID that American kids are exposed to the original works. If an American kid can't handle "colour" instead of "color" etc. something's very wrong!!! Do I assume correctly that all measurements are presented in metrics in your editions? Again, what a great way to educate American kids. We Americans talk so much about cultural diversity and respect these days, yet we have to translate into American English? We may be the largest English-speaking nation (MAY be, I don't know that we are), but we are the only one that spells the way we do. I know that I for one do recognize "theatre", "practise" and "neighbour" with no difficulty at all. In fact, having grown up Anglican, I am quite accustomed to the way English is spelled outside the United States. In fact, I tend to spell many words the British way, especially "neighbour", "labour" and above all else, "Saviour." Hmmm, I wonder if English Literature classes in American universities are now all taught using reworked books. When I read Tolkien, it's all in British spelling. In sort, if a UK version of the series were to drop into my lap, I'd be elated. Unfortunately, the shipping alone would probably be more than I could pay at this point.

SORRY, OFF THE TOPIC.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 6:22 PM EST

Witch

House: Gryffindor
Points: 661

Flitterbloom says:

Jade - all along I've felt that Dumbledore will die because he sacrifices himself for Harry, but I'm thinking that Tonks who is a metamorphmagus will die trying to save harry (as she could make herself look like him). Someone brought this up earlier and it's been nagging at my head for a while. I don't know if Dumbledore will die now or not.. There are reasons I think he will, and then some reasons I think he won't.. like the one u just mentioned

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 6:24 PM EST

Auror

House: Gryffindor
Points: 2303

padfoot5312 says:

I think Kadyak is right in thinking it's Hagrid. He knows some magic but he still needs to learn more. He was only in his 3rd year, so he didn't finish his learning of magic.

Also I the Hedwig is an owl. I seen nothing in the books that would say he was (Like when padfoot and crookshank was together-they both were after the rat)

So far I haven't seen in the books where she uses the same idea twice.

Maybe we should put pages and books down on where we are getting our theory

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 6:36 PM EST

Witch

House: Gryffindor
Points: 661

Flitterbloom says:

Ok, I'm getting off for the night, but if anyone wants to e-mail with some theories (which i'd be so unbelievably grateful if you did) or you wanna add me to msn messenger go right ahead. andrea_lavery@hotmail.com

TTYL EVERYONE

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 6:42 PM EST