Discussion: The 'Phoenix' files

Professor

House: Gryffindor
Points: 1106

Ima Quidditch Fan says:

Newt, do you think the Mimbulus mimbletonia will eventually cure the Longbottoms? Neville's memory is SO much better since hse got that plant. AND he was interupted when he was explaining WHAT it does... I think it will be very impromptant. (ALso, JKR must have really wanted to knock us over the head that is was important as it was the password for Gryffindor ALL year)

It would be great if Neville's parents could be healed. I think the Order could use them, not to mention Neville and Harry.

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 2:04 PM EST

Old Chortlebones

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 2601

Newt Scamander says:

Leslie - If you're talking about the post dealing with Dumbledore's triumphant glare dealing with Pettigrew being a part of Voldemort now, then I agree. I never really took much heed to Dumbledore's glare, but now that I think about it, it probably is important, and that would be a very good reason for it. If Pettigrew is in debt to Harry, then maybe the debt will be paid off by the sparing of Harry's life at one point, or by Voldemort's own death at another. Very interesting idea.

If that wasn't the post you were talking about, then this was an unnecessary and somewhat moronic reply.

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 2:16 PM EST

Old Chortlebones

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 2601

Newt Scamander says:

Oh, and Ima Quidditch Fan - I wouldn't be surprised if Neville's plant helped the Longbottoms, but I don't think that it will ever return them to the state that they were first in. It may make them only sane enough to observe and suggest, but certainly not to act or decide. (If that even sounds right.)

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 2:30 PM EST

Healer for all Occasions

House: Gryffindor
Points: 3567

Madam Malkin says:

Newt - That was the comment I was talking about. Thanks for the input. Someone else agreed with me, too. So, now that I have a couple other opinions, maybe I'm not crazy. haha. Well, maybe I am, but not for that reason. hehe. But thanks for you opinion. :)

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 2:32 PM EST

Head Girl

House: Gryffindor
Points: 479

eclektic says:

sue B:
i disagree with your analysis of dumbledore. he had to place harry in petunia's care bacause of the protection of the blood that rested in her. i believe that he did not want him to grow up to be arrogant and pompous and that is why he refused to step in and ask petunia to lay of with her mistreatment. if harry knew of his importance and the numerous number of people that were backing him up, this would empower him and make him proud of the position that he is in. dumbledore did not want him to carry a heavy burden that he was not well equipped for and decided to only inform him on his 11th birthday with his entry to hogwarts then.

i believe that the reason why dumbledore hasnt told harry (till the 5th book) about his destiny and the future duel between him and voldemort that could result in his own death was because he wanted to protect him from the ugly truth. that was why he witheld that information till he thought that harry was ready; a mistake that dumbledore realises in the end. in the book, we realise that in dumbledore's pursuit for HARRY's happiness and his safety, he dismissed the importance of the lives and deaths of the wizards and witches in the wizarding world.

[i]i cared about you too much. i cared more for your happiness than your knowing the truth, more for your peace of mind than my plan, more for your life than the lives that might be lost if the plan failed.[i] -- dumbledore


i think dumbledore was more concerned with harry's well being than that of the many lives in the wizarding world that made him act the way he did.

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 2:34 PM EST

Head Girl

House: Gryffindor
Points: 479

eclektic says:

random thoughts on previous posts..

1. about harry's godmother:
does harry have to have a god mother? i mean, its not neccessary is it?

2. remus/james big switch:
i personally dont think that this would happen. wouldnt this be all star wars-ish when lupin suddenly reveals that 'harry i am your father?' lol. it sounds a bit cheesy to me.. besides, i think the fact that lupin's name was in the marauder's map shows that he is indeed who he is, and has not switched bodies with james.

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 2:39 PM EST

Old Chortlebones

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 2601

Newt Scamander says:

Eclektic - No, Harry doesn't have to have a godmother. It is, however, interesting to speculate, and it would make sense if Alice Longbottom turned out to be his godmother. If not, no loss. And yes, that other theory is cheesy, but interesting nonetheless. ::Shrugs and laughs::

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 2:43 PM EST

Professor

House: Gryffindor
Points: 1106

Ima Quidditch Fan says:

Almost there Newt! Another theory that I hang on to is the Winter's Tale... betwen Harry, Ron and Hermione. I wonder if, what Ron might do to lash out.

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:03 PM EST

Old Chortlebones

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 2601

Newt Scamander says:

Ima Quidditch Fan - I agree, I wonder if Rowling chose Hermione's name because of A Winter's Tale or if she just liked the name and figured, hey, why not? It might just be a coincidence that her two best friends happen to be male and she happens to be into that kind of thing, but it might not. What I wonder is whether or not she and Krum are still somewhat in love, or if they just have a kind of pen pal relationship.

Oh, and thanks! Four more posts after this one, I think.

Oh, and I just noticed something. This whole page has been posts by Gryffindors, and then me. ::Shrugs:: Oh well. I felt welcomed enough, I suppose.

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:08 PM EST

Marauder

House: Gryffindor
Points: 3954

jade says:

hello ima i hope you have your new computer, i love your theory about alice and i have a theory to do with it i was discussing it with mad eye a week ago.Thats why i love your theorys they link with mine so well cant wait for you to get your comp.you bought my new theory to life its one of the best ones i have had like the mundugas one :)i am glad your on

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:11 PM EST

Healer for all Occasions

House: Gryffindor
Points: 3567

Madam Malkin says:

I know how much Dumbledore genuinely cares for Harry, but he also knew that Voldie was not gone for good. Does anyone wonder if Dumbledore tried as hard as he did to protect Harry because if he died, no one coule defeat Voldie? The Prophecy said something about the one with the power to kill the dark lord, and that either must die at the hands of the other, so, as many have already said, Harry seems to be the only one that can kill Voldie. So if he died, Voldie would pretty much be unstoppable. I know Dumbledore genuinely cares for Harry, but I also wonder if there is a little more to it.

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:13 PM EST

Head Girl

House: Gryffindor
Points: 479

eclektic says:

Newt Scamander:
are you hoping to change your status to 'prefect'? lol.. does anyone know what happens if your points becomes 600? what does your status change into?

and i think that hermione doesnt like krum that way.. i still think she's into ron and that neither of them wants to reveal their feelings. i say get on with it already...!

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:14 PM EST

Old Chortlebones

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 2601

Newt Scamander says:

Eclektic - Of course I wanna be a prefect! I know in my heart that it doesn't matter, but I like knowing that my status is higher than some other people that I respect. ::Chuckles::

Also, 500 (Wizard/Witch) is the second-to-last status "milestone." The last is 1000, where you can choose a custom title.

Jade - Mind sharing your theory with us? ::Grins::

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:16 PM EST

Marauder

House: Gryffindor
Points: 3954

jade says:

i also think that the mention of mark evans maybe ared herring he may even go to hogwarts but jkr likes putting in thinks that we may percieve as important but she just adds it in to stir us away from what she is really planning

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:16 PM EST

Head Girl

House: Gryffindor
Points: 479

eclektic says:

why i think harry WILL live...

prophecy states that either harry or voldemort is able to kill the other. so obviuosly harry will kill off voldemort because if he doesnt, then nobody will. not even dumbledore. if voldemort doesnt die, then he would continue crating havoc and destruction. he would pursue his quest of being immortal and would rule the universe FOREVER.. scary scary thought.

of course tis does not discount the possibility that both harry and voldemort may die.. ah dang it!

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:18 PM EST

Head Girl

House: Gryffindor
Points: 479

eclektic says:

Newt Scamander: LOL i know what you mean! its so fun to see yourself gather points along the way. call me pathetic, but its a cool achievement..

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:20 PM EST

Marauder

House: Gryffindor
Points: 3954

jade says:

maybe all the founders of hogwarts have places named after them

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:32 PM EST

Squib

House: Gryffindor
Points: 166

SueB says:

eclektic-

I agree with all your points. I just think Harry had a right to be mad. I should have been more clear, I think DD had no choice to put Harry with the Dursleys, I just think he could have insisted on a little let abuse.

SueB

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:34 PM EST

Prefect

House: Gryffindor
Points: 305

kazy says:

When Ron made the joking comment about the chances of winning the quiddich cup where as good as his dad becoming the minister of magic - do others of you think this is a foreshadowing? I can see Arthur becoming the minister in book 7 - how about you all?

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:35 PM EST

Old Chortlebones

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 2601

Newt Scamander says:

Jade - I'm pretty sure that at least Gryffindor does (Godric's Hollow). I believe it may have been a neighborhood that he had created to allow his family nice accomodations, and close contacts with each other.

Which brings me back to something I wanted to find...does anyone, anyone at all, have any clue whatsoever as to when Hogwarts was founded?

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:35 PM EST

Head Girl

House: Gryffindor
Points: 479

eclektic says:

i was thinking of the potter's living at godric's hollow. at first i thought that perhaps this might be a link to the potter's lineage and them being related to godric gryffindor himself. but then again, the place just could be named after famous wizards and the like as a tribute or remembrance to them and not mean anything in the end. for example, sirius lives at grimmauld place but that doesnt neccessarily mean tha he's related to grimmauld right? however, i think it would be neat if the potter were indeed related to godric gryffindor himself..

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:37 PM EST

Head Girl

House: Gryffindor
Points: 479

eclektic says:

Newt Scamander :
just a couple more points... about your question, i only have a rough estimate. about a thousand years ago. not much help is it?

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:39 PM EST

Old Chortlebones

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 2601

Newt Scamander says:

Eclektic - I agree as well on the whole idea where Godric's Howllow could have just been named out of respect for Gryffindor. Who knows, maybe he was a philanthropist. But if Hogwarts was founded around the middle to the end of the fourteenth century, then I believe that Gryffindor may have been related to Bowman Wright, inventor of the Snitch, and that may be a link to the Potters. Granted, this is all wishful thinking and mostly unlikely, but hey, it doesn't hurt to dream.

"Imagination is more important than knowledge." - Albert Einstein

Of course, I would like to know if any of this is true. ::Chuckles::

Kazy - I agree, I could easily see Arthur Weasley as Minister of Magic. After all, the Order will probably now have a good influence upon the Ministry, and the whole Weasley family is a big part of the Order.

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:41 PM EST

Head Girl

House: Gryffindor
Points: 479

eclektic says:

Newt Scamander :
LOL.. ditto to that. its fun to have an outlet to present your wildest thoeries and not get conked on the head for it.

Kazy:
hmm, i think arthur weasley is a great guy and that he's essentially a very nice man. but i doubt if he makes it to the minister of magic office because on top of all the qualities that he has, im wondering if he does have the leadership quality to do so. i havent really seen him command and be in charge of a large group of people.

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:46 PM EST

Professor

House: Gryffindor
Points: 1106

Ima Quidditch Fan says:

Newt, I believe that someone mentioned the gold in Harry's vault may have come from Bowman Wright... BUT I posted before, who do you think has his papers? How to make the snitch... it only said a COLLECTOR. Any thoughts?

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:48 PM EST

Professor

House: Gryffindor
Points: 1106

Ima Quidditch Fan says:

Krazy - I totally agree that Mr. Weasley will be the Minister... you are right about Ron joking... when he does it happens.

Posted Jul 20, 2003 at 3:49 PM EST