Discussion: The 'Phoenix' files

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girliegirl says:

or maybe Jk did a mistake...or perhaps we are missing something from one of the books ...too many pages to remember everything!

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:13 AM EST

Healer for all Occasions

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Madam Malkin says:

Yeah, girliegirl, that's a possibility. But seriously, you can't automatically say that he was a Seeker when in the books, in a memory, he is doing nothing more than playing with the snitch, and when JK says in an interview that he was Chaser. I mean, sure, this part of the book contradicts the chaser thing, but it never says "James was a Seeker."

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:13 AM EST

Student

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girliegirl says:

leslie-if you are going to sleep please tell me so I wont keep writing here by myself lol

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:14 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

I dont know...we are gonna have to bring this up when there are more people here because I dont have a clue ...the only thing I can tell you is...I think james is ..I mean was soooo cute

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:16 AM EST

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Madam Malkin says:

Lol. Yeah, I actually should go to sleep it's late here. But, anyway, we could have missed something in the books, but why would JK say in an interview he's a Chaser if she doesn't intend for him to be a Chaser? Oh, well. Gotta let it go. Going to bed now, bye! Good talking to you. :)

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:16 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

what about kadyak ? I think he noticed that he was writing things in the wrong place

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:18 AM EST

Squib

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Kadyak says:

I need to clarify a couple of points:

1) I don't necessarily believe that Fudge is acting under the Imperius Curse. That hypothesis is nothing more than an attempt to reconcile his behavior at the beginning of Po
A and the end of the same and all of GoF. I am actually more inclining toward him NOT being under any curse, rather being quite evil of his own free will.

2) My wife is reading posts to me along the way here. Sorry if I am confusing people. I was responding to a post apparently from a while back (from everyone else's point of view) about Narcissa Malfoy taking a post at the ministry in light of the numerous vacancies. It was suggested that Lucius Malfoy might have had a shoe in, but since he is now in Azkaban, his wife might take his place. I should certainly hope that one would want to investigate HER very thoroughly before offering her such a position. Nagina, once Nag had been killed, was twice as dangerous as before.

Narcissa, by the way, is NOT Spanish, though "Narcisa" would be a perfectly legitimate Spanish version of the name. The adjectival name is originally Greek, from mythology.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:19 AM EST

Squib

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Kadyak says:

Oh yes, one more clarification: My question about the reactions to Ron becoming prefect was not intended to imply that I don't think he is fit. On the contrary, I think he is quite fit, especially since I suspect that Dumbledore has a particular reason for putting him in that spot - beyond fulfilling the usual duties of a prefect. As prefects Ron and Hermione may be in a better position to protect Harry.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:22 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

well yeah you are right ! i just didnt remember how to spell the word lol I know that because I lived one year in spain so...I know spanish...sorry about the mistake

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:22 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

well yeah you are right ! i just didnt remember how to spell the word lol I know that because I lived for a year in spain so...I know spanish...sorry about the mistake

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:23 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

by the way ...how do you know all that? you have a wife so...you are of course older than I am...how old are you?

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:25 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

lol I posted two times ... since you knew all this stuff I didnt want to make a mistake ...and I did it and you found out lol

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:27 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

hello? Mr. kadyak ...are you there???

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:29 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

I really would like to know how do you know all that are you from spain or something? if you are not ...you are pretty smart ten lol

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:32 AM EST

Virginia says:

Just finished reading 350 posts and taking notes. Here goes.
1. Lots of parallelism between Volde/Hitler. Hitler was part jew, yet exterminated 6+ million Jews--what is the Aryan race if not "Pureblood"?
2. Muggles can die by Avada Kadavra--the old moan caretaker does when he runs into Volde in the Riddle Mansion.
3.Of course volde can be killed by muggles;he can be overwhelmed by shear numbers if nothing else.
4.JK states that someone "will learn magic later in life." MY guesses would be Hagrid, A. Figg, &Aunt Petunia.
5.George Can'tStandya--immoral secrecy, yes, but logical if carried out correctly. It will protect both societies in the end. By your thoughts, every government should be privy to secrets to every other government becuase spying, lying, and assassination, not to mention war, is immoral, and if we all had all the info, these things would almost never happen.
6.Snape seems to be following the path of young Anakin Skywalker. The difference is that Snape evidently is able to "turn away" to a degree. Just like a recovering alcoholic who must [u]never[u] drink alcohol again, Snape can not teach DADA. It would destroy him.
7. I doubt Snape is related to Harry; as it was pointed out to me about Dumbledore being related to him, it would have shown up in the mirror of ERISED.
8.The underworld was a place where all souls went when they died. People rarely did come back, the biggest one being Persephone. She was the daughter of the Goddess(?) of growth/plants, whom the god of the underworld kidnapped to make his wife. His brother, Zeus, forced him to give P. back for half the year as her mother refused to grow anything in her grief. Thus, for 6 mos. Persephone is with mom and things grow (summer), and when she is with him, things die (winter). Interesting parallel with the Lily/Petunia names, at any rate.
9. It may be possible that only Luna Lovegood will go thru the veil. I am sure someone is going to go thru it, I am still not sure who, nor whether they will be able to release souls.
10. Thus far, dementors are only repelled, they are not destroyed. So, the question remains, how do you destroy one? Furthermore, what are dementors? Are they mearly people who have lost their souls or some such, or are they a different species?
11. I thought it said in book one that James is a seeker. Hermione shows them the plaque. Yes, the scene in the movie shows it, but I thought I "remebered" the seeker bit. I no longer have my copy of SS; could someone go reread that scene and let us all know what is said, and which page? Thank you.

Sorry it is so long. Really enjoyed the thoughts!

11. James

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:32 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

all right! Im talking by my self lol and if I wasnt I would be talking to an old man so...I better go to sleep ...say hey to your wife kadyak!

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:35 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

hey virginia! how are ya...do you think harry is cute? ....or...are you kadyak´s wife?

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:36 AM EST

Virginia says:

Hey girliegirl-
Yes, I think Harry is cute, both in looks and behaviour. Do you know anything about Mythology? It is one of my favourite things to read when I have spare time lol.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:38 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

well Im going to sleep bye everyone ...sorry about the kadyak thing lol

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:39 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

well I dont know about that but kadyak does!

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:40 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

by the way I think james is cute too ...I love his hair and snitch thing

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:41 AM EST

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Kadyak says:

I have never trusted Snape, no matter what DD says. JKR has just had DD admit that he has been making a serious mistake in not being more open with Harry. Even the wisest of men can be fools at times. Perhaps trusting Snape will prove to be DD's fatal mistake - his own undoing and that of many others. Perhaps.

With regard to the idea of DD being evil? Forget it. In all of our analysis, we might consider more carefully what could be red herrings or just too much eisigesis (reading something into the text).

GirlieGirl: No I am not from Spain. Yes, I am probably older than you - just a little.

I am a language buff. I studied Spanish from when I was in 8th grade; then I added in German. My brother was a big fan of Greek mythology, and I am a seminary graduate, so I have studied some Greek (got an "A" without ever doing a bit of homework!).

As for being smarter than you, I won't make any claims there. Besides, based on what my wife has read to me, you seem to be pretty astute yourself.

(I'm starting to catch up here - just a little).

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:41 AM EST

Virginia says:

Narcissa is both a plant (with a flower) and a person in Greek mythology. I don't know about roman mythology, which was taken from the Greeks, but she was a very beautiful young lady who was totally into her looks. She offended a goddess by daring to compare herself with said goddess, who got upset and turned her into a plant, or so the story goes.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:42 AM EST

Virginia says:

OK, are their any night owls out there? Come on, it is supposed to be summer. Besides, I run later than Pacific time, and the sun is still shinning. I'd love to talk to someone. If not, I guess I'll go..."play".

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:46 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

Im glad you finally said something! well I think all the things that you have done are great! why do you think I seem to be astute? by the way ...Im 15

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:46 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

and say hey to your wife!

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:47 AM EST