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Discussion: The 'Phoenix' files

JUNE 23, 2003 at 2:37 PM

Posted by CHEESER
Source: HPANA

So, you've read Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, and pretty darn quick, too. Like many others around the world, you have a sore neck and strained eyes, the result of reading an 870-page book in two or three days. Now you want to share your arduous journey with others. This is the place to do it.

First I'll offer my own thoughts (LET THE SPOILERS BEGIN).

One word: WOW. And I thought the Dursleys were mean. As I'm thinking of where to begin talking about Order of the Phoenix, the one thing that keeps coming to the forefront of my mind is the book's grave look into the corruption and abuse of power (and vice-versa, the power of abuse and corruption). Whether found in the annals of history or safely between the book covers of children's fiction, it can be accurately restated that absolute power corrupts absolutely.

More on that later, but first, the death: How many of you were right? Raise your hands. Sirius was definitely on my short-list. When JK said a major character was going to die, I knew it wouldn't be any of the trio, I thought it might be an older Weasley, but then my thoughts turned to Sirius. He was given to Harry, so how painful could it be to have him taken away? That was my reasoning, anyway.

Is Cho finally "over-and-out"? Will the Weasley twins' business continue to succeed? Does the Ministry now understand how much it needs Dumbledore?

UPDATE: We now have a full-fledged forum available. Click here to start using it!

Q: What will happen to the content here?

A: Everything will be saved. In fact, I'd like recommendations on what to do with all the great posts here. Can we move some of it into the new forum? Just link back to it? Let me know (just mention my name, Cheeser, in any post).

Q: I don't like change! Waaaa!

A: That's not a question, but I understand. The new system is capable of so much more, including separate threads so people can have detailed conversations about certain aspects of the book. You can still have a free-for-all thread, too. It's your forum! Do whatever you want with it.

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girliegirl says:

and say hey to your wife!

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:47 AM EST

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Kadyak says:

This is a very interesting theory - about Slytherin (and Gryffendor) still being alive somehow. I'll have to think about it, but off hand, it seems to have some merit.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:48 AM EST

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Virginia says:

Hey folks! Don't be shy! There are supposed to be about 30 of us out on line tonight, so where are you?

Nice to hear from you girliegirl. Any other thoughts, or are you just too sleepy?

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:49 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

virginia- like I told leslie before you came...if you are going to sleep please tell me so I wont stay here talking by my self lol

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:50 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

Im not sleepy ...I just think hpana should create a chat room or something like that ..

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:52 AM EST

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Virginia says:

OK, will do. Just went and got my dove out of his cage so he could sit on my shoulder. I just wish that more people would say something. I make all these notes on paper so I don't have to post several times, and so I don't repeat myself. I like to kick around ideas like this.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:54 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

and kadyak is a nice guy after all lol

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:55 AM EST

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Kadyak says:

GirlieGirl: To the best of my knowledge, you can't place your posts, nor does there seem to be a way to refer to a specific posting number when responding. Too bad. Sorry to create confusion.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:55 AM EST

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Virginia says:

Anyone! I checked, and about 30 of us logged in right now. Theres you, me and Kadyak who have posted lately. The time might have something to do with it, but I thought that others might jump in with something to say.

Figured that maybe if they received an invitation, maybe they would lol!

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:56 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

however I think is kinda weird that he is doing all this reading with his wife about harry potter ...well harry potter isnt just for kids lol

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:56 AM EST

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Virginia says:

Someone could make a suggestion to Cheeser to set up a visible number next to the posts, you know.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:57 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

yeah but how? do you know how to invite people ?

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 2:58 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

yeah "to the best of my knowledge" this is kinda confusing and we need a chat room here so we can talk faster...I mean write to each other faster

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:00 AM EST

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Virginia says:

Why? Haven't you read about various adults reading HP at some point. Wasn't there a tennis star in the UK who was reading GoF then when it came out, but isn't reading OotP?

I have heard other stories...and face it, even though Nancy Drew/Hardy boys, or Animorphs, or Jack London stories are for kids, if they are good, why not? Besides, someone in publishing, library sciences, etc. would have a professional interest as well as a personal interest.

If someone had children who were reading, and there were controversies (like is HP unChristian or devil worshipping), wouldn't it make sense for a parent to at least look at it, let alone read?

Btw, I think there are actually many parallels to Christianity in the HP books.

Sorry it's so long...again.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:02 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

maybe...kadyak´s wife is Jk -...and thats why they are taking notes and stuff so they know what people think about the books ...

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:03 AM EST

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Virginia says:

I agree that having a chat would be nice. Btw, have you read any fanfic?

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:03 AM EST

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Kadyak says:

Well, thank you, GirlieGirl; but I must wonderw what you mean by me being a "nice guy after all." Did I seem otherwise before? No offense taken, by the way. I am more amused than anything else.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:04 AM EST

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Virginia says:

I invite by posting here and seeing if anyone who is reading responds. Some people, I guess, still feel funny about throwing ideas out. I guess they feel stupid or that they don't have anything worthwhile saying.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:06 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

you´re right but they only "read" the books...they dont take notes and talk about it all day like us =) my dad says that Im too old to be "in love lol" with harry potter ...

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:06 AM EST

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Kadyak says:

Well, I am sorry to say that I am not JKR's husband for two reasons. 1) If I were, I'd be British; 2) If I were I'd know a lot more about the inside scoop than I do. As it is, I just have to speculate along with everyone else.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:08 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

I was throwing ideas about kadyak´s wife being Jk ..that was stupid lol...

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:08 AM EST

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Kadyak says:

P.S. That was intended to imply "nothing against my real wife!!!!"

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:09 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

I didnt feel stupid then...however! when kadyak told me that I was so wrong about the narcisa thing (is that how you spell it?) I did feel stupid ...and thought that kadyak was mean lol

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:10 AM EST

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Virginia says:

Funny, I have always had a thing for the musher in White Fang, which was written over 100 years ago. I really don't think you're ever too old to be in love with a good character.

I guess it's sort of like movie stars; if they play in a good role, you know you like the character, not the actor who may end up being a total jerk in real life, not to mention in his next roll. At least story characters aren't like that, at least not in the muggle world.

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:11 AM EST

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girliegirl says:

Im having fun now! by my self...lol Im the only one telling stupid jokes here...and the only one who keeps saying "lol" here

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:13 AM EST

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Virginia says:

Girliegirl, don't put yourself down so much! Everyone else will do it for you, and you have a lot going for you.

The other thing about adults reading HP--I bet a lot of them like mysteries, and this is the biggest mystery of the last/this century.

I think Kadyak probably meant to share with you or teach you; I really don't think he meant to put you down.

I think its great you got to live in Spain; I'm so jealous. Where were you, and why?

Posted Jul 11, 2003 at 3:14 AM EST

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