Discussion: The 'Phoenix' files

Professor

House: Gryffindor
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Ima Quidditch Fan says:

Newt Scamander - I think your explanation is brilliant! AND it explains a lot... for example, how can they both be walking around right now. Very perceptive.

Another thing it explains, have you ever wondered if Snape DID poison Harry with his potion?

He seems to heal easily... even the basalik should have killed him in a minute according to Voldemort, but he had time stab the book, getting rid of shadow Tom, talk to Ginny, and talk to Fawkes. Much more than a minute.

Also, a 20 foot fall, even aided by DD, that could kill a person.

The poison of the giant spider? Seemed to make him ill, but according to my memory of Great Beasts, it was poison.

There seem to be many moments that should have killed Harry, but he survive. Until your theory, I just thought it was because he was the hero... but this makes perfect sense!

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 8:24 PM EST

Animagus

House: Gryffindor
Points: 19544

Sirius-Ella says:

Newt and ima
bot brillint again ;)
I was thinking more about newts interpretation..
Maybe he is immortal...When (lemme remind you maybe)
the prophecy was made it had some magic to it and when Voldemort made his choice of who to mark they both would be made immortal..and as Voldemort being already somewhat immortal thats why had vanished..or er um--lost some of his powers and became weak?? what do you think????

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 8:33 PM EST

Professor

House: Gryffindor
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Ima Quidditch Fan says:

BertieBotts88 - a good question... we discussed it WAaaaaaY back, and I forget who, but someone said JKR asnwered that in an interview. She said that Harry was too young to understand the murder of his mother, and he was dazed after Cedric's death, in other words, it had not had time to 'sink' in.

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 8:33 PM EST

Professor

House: Gryffindor
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Ima Quidditch Fan says:

I finally had a chance to post the follow-up to my earlier anagram of Harry’s name. This is what I get for his mother:

I AM LILY EVANS POTTER

I let my son live apart.

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 8:35 PM EST

Professor

House: Gryffindor
Points: 1106

Ima Quidditch Fan says:

Tatipotter - while I think Wormtail is despicable, I bet he is in Gryffindor, and just like Pavarti and Lavender, someday will show us why. I believe that Wormy will help Harry one day.

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 8:43 PM EST

Professor

House: Gryffindor
Points: 1106

Ima Quidditch Fan says:

I-Pie, reading the posts about Buckbeak, it dawns on me that Sirius and Harry fed him rats. When Harry and Hermione rescued him he was digging for worms... I wonder if they fed him rats, hoping that they would get Peter. :)

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 8:47 PM EST

Old Chortlebones

House: Hufflepuff
Points: 2601

Newt Scamander says:

Ima Quidditch Fan - While it could just be how pretty much everyone here (including me) is getting way too into the whole foreshadowing thing in Harry Potter because we have so much time on our hands, maybe it means that Buckbeak might have a say in Pettigrew's fate. But probably not. Oh well.

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 9:15 PM EST

Professor

House: Gryffindor
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Ima Quidditch Fan says:

Newt, it COULD be forshadowing, but I think that they were just venting frustration with Wormy on ANY rat... perhaps hoping that they'd get him. It must be scary thinking that a little rat could overhear your most secret plans.

Hi, Jade! Long time no hear post... POST, POST, POST... do you hear the Quidditch crowd roar???? Fly, fly Gryffindor!

Did you catch Newt's theory about immortality? I love it! I really think that Harry and Voldie are immortal right now. How is Mad Eye?

I am about to post my Snape / Lily connection... but it'll take a bit to type it all up.

You could post in the meantime. Or you, Sirius-Ella ...
What do you guys think about the color green? Any new ideas?

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 9:28 PM EST

Professor

House: Gryffindor
Points: 1106

Ima Quidditch Fan says:

Sirius tells Harry in OOP Chapter 6 that he ran away at 16... and then got a place of his own. I wonder where it was, and did James ever visit there? Can you imagine 17 year old boys living out on their own?

Also, Sirius mentions that the Blacks thought they were so good they were practically royal. Agian with these hints. I do think that Harry is going to be a prince of some sort.

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 9:35 PM EST

Professor

House: Gryffindor
Points: 1106

Ima Quidditch Fan says:

I guess that goes back to someones post about purple.

Purple is mentioned in several places - the robes, Lavander's name, Lockhart loved it.

AND green... = evil ????
It worries me a bit that Ron often looks green. I hope he doesn't do something out of jealousy.

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 9:39 PM EST

Animagus

House: Gryffindor
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Sirius-Ella says:

Ima--didn't you see my post about green it was quite awhile back..but alot of it made sense why alot of stuff is green...its way back there...I don't know if you just skimmed over it but it was very helpful I think :D

1976-2000 section...

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 9:51 PM EST

Professor

House: Gryffindor
Points: 1106

Ima Quidditch Fan says:

Sirius-Ella, yes, remember we discussed it... I think it was a wonderful catch. I was just curious if you had thought of any more ideas about the colors. :) Jade?

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 10:00 PM EST

Editor of the Squibbler
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House: Hufflepuff
Points: 2031

eudaemonia says:

Tatipotter: The possibility that they're not all in the same houses did come to me -- they all could've been a united combination of all of the houses based on the personalities and characteristics given (minimal) to us so far: Padfoot in Slytherin (based on family and background), Wormtail in Hufflepuff, Moony in Ravenclaw (based on how smart he was), and Prongs in Gryffindor (because I think he and Lily were both Heads of the same house, if my memory serves me correctly).

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 10:09 PM EST

Professor

House: Gryffindor
Points: 1106

Ima Quidditch Fan says:

Does anyone speak French? The Noble and most ancient house of Black has a motto... Toujours Pur

Roughly, Ever Solitary? Always simple?
I think this is a clue... I thought Pur might be Pure, but an oline French/English dictionary says Toujours... Evermore, always, AND Pur... sole, solitary, simple, straightforward.

Perhaps Sirius was supposed to always be alone. I think this was a clue to the veil, and his death.

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 10:13 PM EST

Professor

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Ima Quidditch Fan says:

eudaemonia - That is a clever theory.

Do the sparks that fly out of a wand indicate house or do all wizards wands shoot red and gold? Lupin's wand shot red and gold sparks. I have wondered about this since POA. It is also one of the points made about the James/Lupin switch that I never really agreed with, but if Lupin was in Ravenclaw, and wizards' wands do emit their house colors, the switch could then be possible.

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 10:19 PM EST

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eudaemonia says:

Anyone else wonder why Ron suddenly gained enough courage to win the Quidditch game (and cup) the exact time Harry and Hermione weren't there to witness it? I wonder if there's a sort of... I don't know, physical imbalance... when all three or maybe even just Harry and Ron are in the same area -- that both can never really shine in achievement at the same time, one has to be either the winner and the other the supporter. Yes there was a moment when Dumbledore awarded them both after escaping the chamber, but really, Ron was held back from the actual fight against Riddle.

Does Harry hold Ron back? Unintentionally definitely, but there doesn't seem to be room for both to be hero.

Anyone else get this vibe? It'll be interesting to see how both will be playing Quidditch in the 6th book -- will a battle between the recent Gryffindor Quidditch cup heroes ensue?

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 10:22 PM EST

Order of Merlin, 2nd Class

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Juno Puddifoot says:

Head boy and Head girl are for the whole school, not just the house unlike prefects. The french Tojour pur I thought was relating to always pure as well Ima, like always pure[blood], so that is interesting. Whats the theory on Snape/Lily Ima, come on post!

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 10:29 PM EST

Order of Merlin, 2nd Class

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Juno Puddifoot says:

eudaemonia I'm hoping it was the absence of Fred and George more than Harry and Hermione, but yeah there is a feeling of an imbalance in the group, Harry's famous Hermione brainy and Ron well he's just Ron lol.

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 10:36 PM EST

Order of Merlin, 2nd Class

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Juno Puddifoot says:

Does anyone else wonder if Ron and Hermione are already together? We do only see stuff from Harry's perspective. They must have spent a bit of time together at the House of Black in the hols.

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 10:40 PM EST

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eudaemonia says:

Puddifoot: Ah! Good call!

So... hmmm... the same theory would have to stand. I don't think James was the brains of the operation and compared to Peter, he's more of the Gryffindor-type.

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 10:50 PM EST

Professor

House: Gryffindor
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Ima Quidditch Fan says:

The Noble and Most Ancient House of EVANS

(Earlier post someone pinpointed Voldemort at 66 years. McGonnagal and Hagrid around the same age as they were in school together. Mr. Evans, Snape's father, and Lily's uncle would have been at school with them.)

(SQUIB) (SQUIB) (WIZARD)
Mr. Evans Mr. Evans?? Mr. Evans??
| | / 'OR' |
| | / |
Petunia & LilyMr.Evans____/ Snape
| | | (abused child
Dud HarryMark changed name)


This is my theory on how Snape and Harry are related.

My guess is that Mr. Evans, Perseus Evans'(aka Snape)dad was in Slytherin. Ashamed of have at least one squib brother.. maybe two, he might have been friends with another muggle basher we know.

Snape's father would have been about the age of Voldemort.

I theorize that these two started a club if you will of Death Eaters... Tom figured out he was the heir of Slytherin, and the rest is history....

I bet Lily's Paternal grandparents were magical.

I think we will see Mark Evans, Harry's 3rd cousin, be sorted in Book 6. What I am unsure about is did Snape have a cousin, nephew, or child. As I believe he is a vampire, I assume nephew or child.

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 10:56 PM EST

Professor

House: Gryffindor
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Ima Quidditch Fan says:

Those lines didn't look so great after the post, this looks better and the picture explains my theory easier.

Mr.Evans Mr.Evans Mr.Evans
Lily and Petunia Mr.Evans Perseus Evans/Snape
Harry Dudley Mark Evans

OR

Mr.Evans Mr.Evans
Lily and Petunia son1 and son2:Perseus Evans/Snape
Harry Dudley Mark Evans

Posted Jul 17, 2003 at 11:10 PM EST

Student

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Points: 294

girliegirl says:

Perhaps Snape was so mad at the moment and said things he didn't mean to say...

Posted Jul 18, 2003 at 12:25 AM EST

Order of Merlin, 2nd Class

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Juno Puddifoot says:

HGreenbacker ... what did Sirius say? ... the I know the truth about you (or something like that:)) He also called him Malfoy's lapdog.

That's neat Ima Quidditch Fan, I even had a little idea worked out that the males in the family have the names of constellations, the females flowers, until I remember Bellatrix... well Narcissa would have fitted. Oh well.

Posted Jul 18, 2003 at 1:53 AM EST

Snape's Woman
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Prof. Andaxia Moonstar says:

I-Pie: I love your idea of Sirius' portrait hanging in the Weasley house! I can just see him and Molly going at it!

dimtick: I agree that DA needs to learn to work together. If they play to each other's strengths they can become a formidable fighting force. I also agree that Harry probably won't use an Unforgivable Curse on Voldemort. Remember what DD said - the right choice is not always the easy one. Simply killing Voldemort with Avada Kedavra is the easy choice, and makes Harry act too much like Voldemort (shudder). I believe we haven't heard the end of the power of love.

Newt Scamander: Incredible interpretation on the prophecy. I too have noticed that Harry gets in scrapes that should have seriously injured (if not killed) him.

I wonder if Ginny has any connection to Voldemort? After possessed in COS, did Tom leave a trace of himself behind in her mind? It has been noted she can be powerful (that bat-bogie curse) and she performed admirably against full-grown wizards at the DOM. I see her having a bigger role in the later books.

Posted Jul 18, 2003 at 2:27 AM EST

Auror

House: Gryffindor
Points: 2303

padfoot5312 says:

Andaxia Moonstar I don't think that there is any trace of Voldemort in Ginny. He possessed her mind, brainwashing her to do what he wanted. Yes, I think she will be a great and powerful witch

Posted Jul 18, 2003 at 7:24 AM EST